Explore / Passage

Maria Rosa on 13 October 1917

Maria Rosa

Seer's familyVillagermother of the seer Lúcia
13 OctFirst-handSaw itSworn depositionScepticSeers' words overheardSun spinningSun fallingPale / silver discCrowd scene
English

On the thirteenth of October the mother went to the place for the first time, despite the parish priest's advice to the contrary. They went to dress the little girls at her sister-in-law's house, because a lady from Pombalinho brought some dresses, veils and garlands. Lúcia's mother went with the children. But, as there were so many people going, she lost sight of them. At the Cova da Iria she pushed her way through and ended up right next to them. As people were saying that they would kill them, that they would cut them to pieces, and as on the other hand she would be so sorry if everything ended and she saw nothing, she decided to go. The children said what time the apparition would take place and wanted to go so as to be there at that time. On the last occasion they waited a quarter of an hour by the holm oak before the apparition began. All three were standing. Jacinta's mother was close by. People behind were saying that there would be nothing, because the hour was passing and nothing extraordinary was happening. All three at once gave a cry, an “ai!” Lúcia said: “Here she comes! Be quiet, there's been a flash of lightning”. It had been raining all morning. The holm oak was decorated with ribbons and roses; you could hardly see any of it.

Then Lúcia said: “She's here now”. She spoke aloud. The mother saw nothing. She only noticed the same scent as the little branch from Valinhos, when her daughter said: “She's here now!” Lúcia asked: “What do you want of me today?” She fell silent for a little and then seemed to ask her for a miracle so that all those people would believe. Then she was silent again. A few moments later she told her that she had many requests from many sick people to make to her. She was standing, with hands joined, facing the holm oak. The others were in the same position. Jacinta was in the middle. The other two children said nothing. Lúcia from time to time made as if to raise her eyes and lowered them at once, and when the parish priest later asked her why she did that, she said it was because it was blinding. The two little girls were dressed in a light blue dress and a white veil and had on their heads a garland of white artificial paper flowers. It all lasted a short time. Lúcia finally said: “There she goes, there she goes!... Do you see her?... Look over there!”, pointing with her arm towards the east, which was the direction she was facing and had faced the whole time. Then, naturally when she lost sight of her, she turned her back to the holm oak and, addressing the people behind, said: “Listen, Our Lady said that people should mend their ways and stop offending God, who was already very much offended, and that the war was going to end”. And her sister-in-law Olímpia said: “Oh Lúcia, didn't you ask Our Lady to work a miracle so that all the people would believe?” To this Lúcia answered: “Well, do you want a greater miracle than the war ending?” Lúcia said further that Our Lady had said that they should build a little chapel there, that she was the Lady of the Rosary, that the war would end as soon as she reached Heaven. She turned round again and repeated: “There she is!... Do you see her?... She's just about to arrive” (The little girl does not remember having told the people to look up, I mean, at the sky, at the sun). It was then that the people began to look up. Lúcia's mother looked and saw the sun three times spinning and coming down, and one could look at it. All the people were looking and shouting. The people were saying: “Look, look!” Lúcia's mother even feared that the children might be ill-treated. A doctor from Torres Novas9 picked her daughter up in his arms and made off with her towards the road. The mother did not know whether it was for good or ill. She came to her sister-in-law's house, the house filling with people, and then went to her own house.

Português (original)

Em treze de outubro a mãe foi ao local pela primeira vez, apesar da recomendação em contrário do senhor Prior. Foram vestir as pequenas para casa da cunhada, porque uma senhora do Pombalinho trouxe uns vestidos, uns véus e umas grinaldas. A mãe da Lúcia foi com as crianças. Mas, como ia muito povo, perdeu-as de vista. Na Cova da Iria furou e ficou mesmo ao pé delas. Como diziam que as matavam, que as faziam em postas, e como por outro lado ficava com tanta pena de tudo acabar e não ver nada, resolveu ir. As crianças diziam a hora em que se dava a aparição e queriam ir para estar a essa hora. Da última vez demoraram-se um quarto de hora junto da azinheira antes de começar a aparição. Estavam todos três de pé. A mãe da Jacinta estava perto. O povo dizia por trás que não haveria nada, porque ia a passar a hora e não se estava dando nada de extraordinário. Todos três a um tempo deram um grito, um ai! A Lúcia disse: “Lá vem ela! Calem-se que já deu um relâmpago”. Tinha estado a chover toda a manhã. A azinheira estava enfeitada com fitas e rosas, quase não se via nada dela.

Depois a Lúcia disse: “Já cá está”. Falava alto. A mãe não via nada. Só notou o mesmo cheiro do raminho dos Valinhos, quando a filha disse: “Já cá está!” A Lúcia perguntou: “O que me quer hoje?” Calou-se por um pouco e em seguida parece que lhe pediu um milagre para que todo aquele povo acreditasse. Depois ficou outra vez calada. Daí a momentos disse-lhe que tinha muitos pedidos de muitos doentes para lhe fazer. Ela estava de pé, de mãos postas, voltada para a azinheira. As outras estavam na mesma posição. A Jacinta ficava no meio. As outras duas crianças não diziam nada. A Lúcia de vez em quando ia para levantar os olhos e baixava-os logo, e perguntando-lhe o senhor Prior mais tarde porque fazia isso, disse que era porque cegava. Estavam as duas meninas vestidas com um vestido azul claro e um véu branco e tinham na cabeça uma grinalda de flores brancas artificiais de papel. Durou tudo pouco tempo. A Lúcia por fim disse: “Lá vai ela, lá vai ela!... Veem-na?... Olhem para acolá!”, apontando com o braço na direção do nascente para onde estava e esteve sempre voltada durante todo o tempo. Depois, naturalmente quando a perdeu de vista, voltou as costas para a azinheira e dirigindo-se ao povo que estava atrás disse: “Olhem que Nossa Senhora disse que se emendassem de ofender a Deus, que já estava muito ofendido e que a guerra ia acabar”. E a cunhada Olímpia disse: “Ó Lúcia, então tu não pediste a Nossa Senhora que fizesse um milagre para todo o povo acreditar?” A isto a Lúcia respondeu: “Então ainda querem maior milagre do que é a guerra acabar?”. Disse mais a Lúcia que Nossa Senhora tinha dito que fizessem ali uma capelinha, que ela era a Senhora do Rosário, que a guerra ia acabar logo que chegasse ao Céu. Tornou-se a virar e repetiu: “Já lá está!... Veem-na?... Já lá vai a chegar” (A pequena não se lembra de ter mandado o povo olhar para cima, digo, para o céu, para o sol). Foi então que o povo começou a olhar para cima. A mãe da Lúcia olhou e viu o sol três vezes a desandar e a descer, podendo olhar--se para ele. Todo o povo olhava e gritava. Dizia o povo: “Olhem, olhem!” A mãe da Lúcia chegou a recear que as crianças fossem maltratadas. Um senhor doutor de Torres Novas9, pegou na filha ao colo e abalou com ela para a estrada. A mãe não sabia se era para bem ou para mal. Veio para casa da cunhada, enchendo-se a casa de gente e depois para sua casa.

Editor's notes (1)

9 Dr. Carlos de Azevedo Mendes.

9 Dr. Carlos de Azevedo Mendes.

DCF Seleção, Doc. 80 (= DCF II, Doc. 4) · interrogation · 28 Sep 1923 (6 years later)View scans (3)Link

Read it in context: the full document (DCF Seleção, Doc. 80 (= DCF II, Doc. 4)) ·all passages by Maria Rosa