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Francisco Marto on 13 October 1917

Francisco Marto

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English

On the thirteenth of this month did you see Our Lord blessing the people?
– No, I didn't. I did see, but it was Our Lady.
2nd – Did you see Our Lady of Sorrows* or Our Lady of Carmel*?
– No, I didn't. Our Lady looked like the one I saw down here. She was dressed in the same way.
3rd – Didn't you look at the sun?
– I did.
4th – Didn't you see St Joseph and the Child Jesus?
– I did.
5th – Were they far from the sun or near it?
– Near the sun.
6th – On which side of the sun was St Joseph?
– He was on the left side.
7th – And on which side was Our Lady?
– On the right side.
8th – Where was the Child Jesus?
– He was next to St Joseph.
9th – On which side?
– I didn't notice which side.
10th – Was the Child big or small?
– He was tiny.
11th – Was he the size of José das Neves's Deolinda1?
– He was just about her size.
12th – When the Lady was on the holm-oak shrub did you hear what she was saying to Lúcia?
– I didn't hear.
13th – Did you hear the sound of her voice?
– I didn't hear that either.
14th – Did it seem that she wasn't speaking?
– It did.
15th – Didn't you see her move her lips?
– I didn't.
16th – Didn't you see her laugh?
– No, not that either
17th – Did you see the signs in the sun? What did you see?

– I looked and saw that the sun was going round. It looked like a firework wheel.

18th – When did the signs appear, before or after the Lady disappeared from the holm-oak shrub?

– It was when the Lady disappeared.

19th – Did you hear Lúcia tell the people to look at the sun?

– I did. She gave a shout for the people to look at the sun.

20th – Was it the Lady who told her to tell the people to look at the sun?

– It was. The Lady pointed with her finger towards where the sun is.

21st – And when did she do that?

– It was when she disappeared.

22nd – Did the signs in the sun begin at once?

– They did.

23rd – What colours did you see in the sun?

– I saw very pretty colours, blue, yellow and others.

Português (original)

Viste no dia treze deste mês Nosso Senhor abençoando o povo?
– Não vi. Vi, mas foi Nossa Senhora.
2a – Viste a Senhora das Dores ou a Senhora do Carmo?
– Não vi. A Nossa Senhora parecia a que eu vi cá em baixo. Estava vestida do mesmo modo.
3a – Não olhaste para o sol?
– Olhei.
4a – Não viste S. José e o Menino Jesus?
– Vi.
5a – Estavam longe ou perto do sol?
– Perto do sol.
6a – De que lado do sol estava S. José?
– Estava do lado esquerdo.
7a – E de que lado estava Nossa Senhora?
– Do lado direito.
8o – Onde estava o Menino Jesus?
– Estava ao pé de S. José.
9o – De que lado?
– Não reparei de que lado.
10a – O Menino era grande ou pequeno?
– Era pequenino.
11a – Era do tamanho da Deolinda do José das Neves1?
– Era assim bem como ela.
12a – Quando a Senhora estava sobre a carrasqueira ouviste o que ela dizia à Lúcia?
– Não ouvia.
13a – Ouvias o som da voz dela?
– Também não ouvia.
14a – Parecia que não falava?
– Parecia.
15a – Não a vias mexer os beiços?
– Não via.
16a – Não a vias rir-se?
– Também não
17a – Viste os sinais no sol? O que foi que viste?

– Olhei e vi que o sol andava à roda. Parecia uma roda de fogo.

18a – Quando foi que apareceram os sinais, antes ou depois da Senhora desaparecer da carrasqueira?

– Foi quando a Senhora desapareceu.

19a – Ouviste a Lúcia avisar o povo para que olhasse para o sol?

– Ouvi. Deu um grito que olhasse o povo para o sol.

20a – Foi a Senhora que a mandou avisar o povo para que olhasse para o sol?

– Foi. A Senhora apontou com o dedo para a banda onde está o sol.

21a – E quando foi que fez isso?

– Foi quando desapareceu.

22a – Os sinais no sol começaram logo?

– Começaram.

23a – Quais foram as cores que viste no sol?

– Vi cores muito bonitas, azul, amarelo e outras.

Editor's notes (1)

1 Deolinda de Jesus. Daughter of José das Neves and Maria Vitória. Born on 12 January 1913.

1 Deolinda de Jesus. Filha de José das Neves e de Maria Vitória. Nasceu a 12 de janeiro de 1913.

DCF Seleção, Doc. 18 (= DCF I, Doc. 16) · interrogation · 19 Oct 1917 (6 days later)View scans (2)Link

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