Fátima 1917

Witnesses /

unnamed married couple from Coimbra

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A married couple 'of standing' from Coimbra who visited the Cova da Iria in late October 1917. They were badly impressed by Lúcia collecting alms and answering questions mechanically.

From CoimbraTravelled from afar2 passages · Other 1917 events

Also written as: unnamed gentleman of high rank

Other 1917Second-handLetterTravelled from afarCrowd scene
As told by Maria Joaquina Tavares de Proença de Almeida Garrett
English

A few days ago a gentleman from here and his wife, people of standing and good principles, went to visit the place of the Apparition. There were a good many people there praying, and little Lucia was there, but it made a bad impression to see her with a money box asking for alms.

The same family from here who told of the money box also said that the little girl had not made a good impression on them when answering the questions put to her, reciting everything like [2v] a barrel organ or a repeater watch*.

She seemed to be repeating a lesson she had been taught, without any real feeling of piety and without a true awareness of the grace received.

Português (original)

Um d'estes dias, foi d'aqui um sujeito casado com a mulher, pessoas de cathegoria e bons sentimentos, visitar o local da Apparição. Havia lá bastantes pessoas rezando e a pequena Lucia lá estava, mas causou má impressão vê-la com um mealheiro pedindo esmolas.

[…]

Tambem a mesma familia d'aqui, que contou o facto do mealheiro, disse, que não o impressionara bem a pequena a responder ás perguntas que lhe faziam, dizendo tudo como [2v] realejo, ou relogio de repetição.

Parecendo que repetia uma lição ensinada, sem um certo sentimento de piedade, e sem bem consciencia da graça recebida.

DCF III-1, Doc. 244 · letter · 1 Nov 1917View scans (4)Link
Other 1917Second-handNoteTravelled from afar
As told by Comissão Canónica Diocesana (rapporteur Manuel Nunes Formigão)
English

A gentleman of high standing who visited the Cova da Iria in the same month stated that he had been surprised to hear Lúcia answer the questions put to her about the apparitions, telling it all without any particular feeling of piety and without being fully aware of the grace received.

Português (original)

Um cavalheiro de elevada categoria que no mesmo mês foi visitar a Cova da Iria, afirmou ter-lhe causado estranheza ouvir a Lúcia responder às perguntas que lhe faziam relativamente às aparições, dizendo tudo sem um certo sentimento de piedade e sem ter bem consciência da graça recebida.

DCF Seleção, Doc. 120 (= DCF II, Doc. 9) · official · 13 Apr 1930View scanLink